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(Date Posted:11/03/2009 06:07 AM)

From FML:


Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:22:37 -0800
From: The Weyr <FurpeopleWeyr@PRODIGY.NET>
Subject: Ferrets and Flu

Hi all.

My heartfelt sympathies to anyone with a ferret with flu, let alone
multiple ferrets with flu. It must be terrifying.

When one of ours came down with it in July, probably the regular
seasonal version, one of our doctors recommended children's benedryl,
we knew that one, and .2 cc of guaifenesin - a decongestant available
in children's and baby cough/cold syrups. She was getting both about
every 6 hours, you could tell when they were wearing off, she was
miserable and struggling to breathe. The guaifenesin really seemed to
help even after she had no obvious signs of congestion.

For those unlucky enough to have it progress towards the chest, don't
forget to talk to your vet about aminophylline. Since I have asthma
myself and are very susceptible to bronchitis, I can also tell you that
these things can be rattling around in your chest before your doctor
can hear them, so don't be bashful about asking before those symptoms
show.

Also I have found that steaming the Vicks vaporizer oil, which is
eucalyptus and a couple of other natural brochialators/decongestants,
in an old crock pot in the kitchen, not next to the ferret or in their
room, helps (both of us).

Don't underestimate the value of that good old chicken soup either.
Fortunately our soup recipe is based very similarly to human chicken
soup, I just watered it down a bit to get extra fluids into our girl
and added a few extra electrolytes.

And finally, medical oxygen is available to the public in most places
with a prescription if you just know where to look for it. I found it
by calling all the gas suppliers in the yellow pages under wielding
supplies and asking if they carried medical oxygen. I stress medical
oxygen because there is a difference. If you get that far you will
need a tank, a regulator, tubing (aquarium works fine), a mask, I use
a household funnel, or better a box. Not inexpensive, but very handy
for shelters.

Again, you have my sympathizes and are in our thoughts.

Brenda, Momma to the FupeopleWeyr
FurpeopleWeyr.com

Bed rest, meds, soup and extra gray hairs for me!

Dar24
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RE:Cold and Flu tips...
(Date Posted:11/05/2009 05:47 AM)

From FML:



Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:15:17 -0800
From: Troy Lynn Eckart <sprite@KSU.EDU>
Subject: Sinupret kids version

Some may remember that I've been dealing with Pasteurella in the
ferrets for over 3 years now. We've tried multiple antibiotics alone
and in combinations trying to clear this up.

The other day I was reading about Sinupret for kids, support for
healthy sinus and respiratory function. I printed off the information
and faxed it to our vet asking if it would be o.k. to give the ferrets.
http://www.bionoricausa.com/product-details/sinupret-for-kids
I've used sinus remedy (colloidal silver) which helps them but it
doesn't clear up the pasteurella in the 3 ferrets that keep having it
recur.

Larry called later and said he didn't see anything in the ingredients
that would be harmful to the ferrets and the ingredients should take
down inflammation so I decided it was worth a try. I have sinus issues
too and tried it first. I ordered it specifically to help little Leo
but it arrived the day after he died (in his sleep). sigh. I noticed
within 20 minutes that it took down nasal inflammation on me.

I found the alcohol content a bit high and could taste it. My ferrets
must like alcohol because they lap it right up and look for more!

I started the ferrets on 0.1 of a cc twice a day. I'm happy to report
that it is helping! I have 3 ferrets that have been plagued with
pasteurella for some time and all 3 are responding favorably. I'm
hearing less sneezing and snarkling. It's been a week.

For those who have ferrets with sneezing or the flu, you might want to
print off the info and ask your vet about using it for them. There is
an adult version but we are using Sinupret for kids oral solution.

tle
www.ferretfamilyservices.org

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RE:Cold and Flu tips...
(Date Posted:11/05/2009 19:11 PM)

According to Sukie it's not a good idea to use Vicks on ferrets.
Found this on the FML

Date:    Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:53:38 -0500
From:    Sukie Crandall <
sukie@MAC.COM>
Subject: Vicks Vaporub can be dangerous for ferrets and for human infants

Abstract on why and how it can worsen the situation:

>Chest. 2009 Jan;135(1):143-8.
>Vicks VapoRub induces mucin secretion, decreases ciliary beat
>frequency, and increases tracheal mucus transport in the ferret
>trachea.
>Abanses JC, Arima S, Rubin BK.
>Department of Pediatrics, Wake Forest University School of Medicine,
>Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1081, USA.
>Comment in:
>Chest. 2009 Aug;136(2):650; author reply 650-1.
>BACKGROUND: Vicks VapoRub (VVR) [Proctor and Gamble; Cincinnati, OH]
>is often used to relieve symptoms of chest congestion. We cared for a
>toddler in whom severe respiratory distress developed after VVR was
>applied directly under her nose. We hypothesized that VVR induced
>inflammation and adversely affected mucociliary function, and tested
>this hypothesis in an animal model of airway inflammation.
>METHODS: [1] Trachea specimens excised from 15 healthy ferrets were
>incubated in culture plates lined with 200 mg of VVR, and the mucin
>secretion was compared to those from controls without VVR. Tracheal
>mucociliary transport velocity (MCTV) was measured by timing the
>movement of 4 microL of mucus across the trachea. Ciliary beat
>frequency (CBF) was measured using video microscopy. [2] Anesthetized
>and intubated ferrets inhaled a placebo or VVR that was placed at
>the proximal end of the endotracheal tube. We evaluated both healthy
>ferrets and animals in which we first induced tracheal inflammation
>with bacterial endotoxin (a lipopolysaccharide [LPS]). Mucin secretion
>was measured using an enzyme-linked lectin assay, and lung water was
>measured by wet/dry weight ratios.
>RESULTS: [1] Mucin secretion was increased by 63% over the controls in
>the VVR in vitro group (p < 0.01). CBF was decreased by 35% (p < 0.05)
>in the VVR group. [2] Neither LPS nor VVR increased lung water, but
>LPS decreased MCTV in both normal airways (31%) and VVR-exposed
>airways (30%; p = 0.03), and VVR increased MCTV by 34% in LPS-inflamed
>airways (p = 0.002).
>CONCLUSIONS: VVR stimulates mucin secretion and MCTV in the
>LPS-inflamed ferret airway. This set of findings is similar to the
>acute inflammatory stimulation observed with exposure to irritants,
>and may lead to mucus obstruction of small airways and increased
>nasal resistance.
>PMID: 19136404 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Sukie (not a vet)

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